Real shit, you make age of consent laws 12 or 14 and there would be a TON of MAGA incels all over that. The law is literally the only thing stopping them
Sometimes I just look up the video of him throwing the first pitch and think we didnt know how good we had it when THIS was the worst possible incarnation of a president.
Oh come on he was a little more nefarious than that, he spent/borrowed so much money on an unnecessary war. He is largely responsible for the impending destruction of the dollar and th U.S.
I know! I was thinking that the other day. Those were the good old days, rather than seeing half the country justify murder of Americans, or ignore racism or even pedophilia.
Before we get too carried away, keep in mind that W fabricated evidence to support wars against Iraq and Afghanistan. Wars which he utterly bungled by having no plan at all, and then dragged on for Ā over 20 years and cost us something like $3 trillion, after we include the medical costs to all those veterans. Refugees from the war in Iraq created an immigration crisis in Europe, as well, so we f-ed our allies there.
Yeah, Trump is looking to be worse, but W was a disaster, too.
His dad was fine, though. Probably the only competent Republican president Iāll see in my lifetime, because their primary selection criteria seems to be, āwhoās the dumbest one?ā
Keep it up. Thereās like this weird PR thing or ideology that the 00s era GOP was āsaneā and ātotally coolā
They werenāt mask of yet. They had to play the game and follow the rules of decorum that still mattered to the federal government (and surprisingly the Republican base). Anyone really paying attention knew what they were about and they could still rest on that āplausible deniabilityā bullshit when it came to gay sex, drugs, or racism. Now they just spin it up, they donāt have to work when there constituents brains are doing it for them.
In any GOP conversation there is always some āguyā who opines for GW Jr like heās a fucking toys r us or Macaulay Caulkin Like he was some font or touchstone for joy in our upbringing lol.
FoH with that yknow? lol he was a legacy politician who advanced the GoPs agenda into what it is today.
On one hand I do get the point the others are making. Like Trump really is just extra embarrassing. And now we do have even more evidence of just how involved he was with Epstein, hes trying to start wars with Allies, etc. The stress levels are just a bit higher.
But I do wish people would try to keep in mind more often that yeah, we shouldnt want to go back to the old republicans because its exactly as you said, they just had the mask on. I see people talking about still identifying as republican but not supporting Trump is fine, but I keep looking around like "What did you agree with them on that isnt just reaching its natural conclusion?" They have neen anti-intilectual. They have been bigoted. They have been worse for the economy. If anything, this should be a great time to question why they would want to side with them at all. Not even just because of where its at now, but if this is all terrible, why still side with the beliefs that lead us here? How is it not sending off warning signs that it was all wrong?
W planted a lot of the seeds that are Trump relies in today.
Access journalism was a strategy that W built to force the press to give him better coverage and it worked. Ā Now Trump bans anyone who does join in his fantasy world.
Most of the laws Trump is abusing today were passed because of W.
Iām not saying Trump isnāt worse, but every generation if Republicans is worse. Itās just what set they are.
Oh no. We agree 100%, itās ignorant that we disconnect even the most recent history from the events of today. Itās a slippery slope. Like, If it gets worse weāre supposed to Opine for the days the guy thatās in office now is gone?
It feels like that line of thinking is a setup for that. Nostalgia replacing the factual history that occured.
Bush deserves criticism, but parts of this are hugely overstated. Thereās no evidence Bush fabricated intelligence or knowingly relied on fabricated evidence. The Iraq case was built on flawed, cherry-picked intelligence that many agencies and allied governments accepted at the time. It also followed 9/11 and had broad international and domestic support.
There was also certainly plans, they were just badly designed and executed, especially dissolving the Iraqi army. And there is certainly no way to pin 20-year wars and trillions in costs on Bush alone, later administrations chose to continue all of it.
Bush made serious strategic mistakes, but in the current political atmosphere he seems like a good president because he was meaningfully better. At least there's no indication he was anything but sincere in his flawed efforts to lead, which was taken for granted and no longer is.
He went to war without congressional approval (which is illegal and created a precedent we see today in Venezuela). Cmon. The intelligence was bad and the truth is you donāt start wars that cost innocent lives on maybes and inferences. Thatās what decent, sane world leaders do.
If everyone operates off of bad information and you know itās not great is going to the highest risk option the smartest? Fuck no. You get more data.
His whole persona was built off being āunassuming cattle rancher, yee haw texanā. People are malicious, politics is a blood sport, you donāt make it to the top like that without knowing how to draw blood. The bushes have been grooming their family for politics for generations now. I think itās foolish to think that GW didnāt have ulterior motives or was executing ulterior motives. He knew the GoP through his dad and he knew the long game. Pretending anything different at this point with how deep politics go and the info we have access to is a dangerous game.
The other presidents had to inherit that mess and somehow manage to run a country and prosecute a needless war.
The only reason that war existed was for optics and $$. It could be said if bush never went to war. The war may not have happened, but paradoxically- if the war didnāt happen and the American people did not feel vindicated- the fermentation of anger and resentment would have boiled up and perhaps we would have got bush in 04 and the war pushed out and delayed.
Shit we got it all āoutā and it still boils.
Hey. Thanks for keeping the tone straight with me bro. I like talking about this stuff. Because right at the end there. That paradox has me questioning my own line of thinking.
Would that war been inevitable? When wars are started by the choices of men? That have agency? Is it truly as unstoppable as we think? Or was that something that would have happened because collectively, we- the American people refused to heal and thought vengeance was the proper course? Even though in the back of our minds- the ones who knew about war- knew of its collateral consequences, knew of the vileness being carried out against people who wanted nothing to do with it.
These questions weigh on me. History is heavy. But we gotta look it in the face and ask the questions if we want the truth we need in order to prevent its rhyme.
Yeah, the guy who started the Iraq war is a better president than trump. Are either of them āgoodā? No, not really. Was bush just following the trajectory of the Republican Party as it rushed to trump? Yes, he was. He was still better thoughā¦
He made America look tolerable lol. Idk about good.
All this waxing about gee dub jr is strange. He was a āsaneā president but using him as a precedent of āoh man I wish the GOP was goofy about their nefarious agenda and had some decorumā isnāt really a time I want to return to either
Patriot act
Islamophobia. People were doing fucked up shit. Even Sikhs and shit were catching strays.
Fermented an Angry, vengeance driven populace that was traumatized wholly by watching 3,000+ people die collectively by being crushed, jumping out of a building or being crushed while burning alive. Focused and pointed towards violent righteous retribution- in the likes of a ācrusadeā
That then started 2 wars we got stuck in for 20 years.
Increased the deficit and national spending.
Inflation went up again. Always does under these guys.
Set the stage for the 08 collapse economically.
Good times. I remember his presidency fondly. Shit donāt have to remember it. Echos of it exist today.
He may have been a piece of shit. But at least he wasn't going to Epstein's place to rape 13 year old girls. Isnt that statement insane? And tens of millions of americans voted for this.
Hey T, did you forward your cute racist video to Clarence and Ginni Thomas? Bet you don't have clean cojones to do it. Even Tim Scott was offended and you know it takes a lot for him to even say boo!
i agree he's being extra unhinged as a distraction rn.
yesterday he released a website to sell a bunch of prescription glp-1's, & 1 vaginal creme? tf lmfao (trumprx.gov)
the new release of epstein files had fucked up shit involving him SAing teens & potentially murdering some ā like threatening young girls w death to make them into "fertilizer" & some of them went missing.
also there was a journal entry likely written by a young girl (no one knows who ā she's probably dead now) about epstein & ghilane having them impregnated on the island, then stealing their babies ā which they SA, murder, & cannibalize + drink their blood. š³
(watch terror ted's recent utube vid for more info)
Edit for whoever responded then immediately blocked me: By all means, ask me a question and Iāll give you an answer when it comes to what I believe.
Sure, Iāll defend ICE in certain scenarios, but I still think there is a severe lack of oversight and transparency. They should all have body cameras. They should have warrants (though that doesnāt mean they must show them to any random person who asks to see them). They should be properly trained. And Iām pretty sure the cruelty has been the point, just to scare people from coming here illegally. No one wants to pay thousands of dollars to be smuggled here just to be rounded up by ICE and go through whatever nightmare the current deportation process is
You wanna know what was one of the things on my mind when I showed up to vote? All the assholes on Reddit who constantly tried gaslighting about the immigration crisis or inflation.
And one last point, at least Iām enough of a grown up to keep my comment history public so anyone can take a look if they like. Meanwhile youāre just a coward leaving your snide comment then running off to hide
They'll fuckin love this dumb racist shit though.
I can already hear my family members that are loud af about this stuff on social media.
"I think it's hilarious. You're just mad because it makes fun of Democrats!"
"Your TDS couldn't be louder, rn."
"You didn't care when Biden... [literally anything Biden did as a false equivalency]"
Yep, my dads general sentiment towards this shit since Dump posted himself dropping his shit on no kings protestors was "hes trolling you guys to make you mad and its working" like the POTUS sowing division in the nation he's leading is genuinely funny to them.
Itās stuff like that where it really keeps re-confirming that maybe the lead poisoning theory is real. That mentality is one of a literal childās thought process.
Theyāre brains just donāt function on a level to consider the ālet them eat crowā ā I hate packers fans and I love when they loseā sports ball type rubbing it in your āopponentās faceā kind of high school bully mentality has no place in the highest levels of government of a world superpower.. where the consequences could be the lives or livelihoods of millions of real human beings with real stakes.
Theyāve voted to turn our society into a reality tv show / tribal sports theater and they give zero fucks about the consequences cause theyāre retiring or nearing the end. I swear it will be studied at one point how bad willful ignorance washed over this country as the boomers entered their golden years. My relatives literally canāt be reasoned with right now. They believe they are untouchable and this is their entertainment.
You are correct all they can do is deflect. I just had to block and remove a cousin because he told me if it were a democrat president in the Epstein files, I wouldnāt give a shit.
Among other things. Heās just hateful.
Iām not even a democrat! And I am a survivor of CSA, I certainly want whoeverās involved punished!
Just fyi, they only love this dumb racist shit cos it gets a reaction. The enjoyment is "ooh people are going to be so mad about this". They want you to be mad about it, and don't have fun if you're not.
Nope, they feel proud.
It'll come back to them, though.
Maybe through choice of nursing home by the kids. Oh, we can save some money by going here. Never mind the negative 1 star rating. Remember those videos they posted. Yeah, they don't need to be cleaned so often.
It's insane how many bots responded to this picture all with similar comments. Gives me hope that there's data that shows that the GOP is about to get their asses absolutely torn apart in the midterms.
He has always been a POS, but I think stuff like this are just more signs that he has dementia. You lose impulse control with dementia, and he was probably sundowning. Iām honestly surprised they havenāt started to take away his phone at night to prevent stuff like this happening. Someone has already deleted the post, and I doubt it was him.
The reason we're in this mess is that people aren't politically engaged. Trump didn't emerge from a vacuum. The stage was set for him culturally and politically, and the reason that was able to happen is that the people who should have been opposing it didn't care enough to even know it was happening.
I did think this was going to be racist because I only saw the screenshot of Obama and Michelle has apes. But now that I've seen the whole video, it's actually so much worse. What is he trying to say here? Other than that he's the king because he's a lion.
So freedom of speech is only for the Orange Felon Pedophile Cult regime??? Hope Obama sues Trump for 117 trillion dollars, so Trumps kids are paying until their own obituaries are read!
This would be unhinged for any 80 year old elderly person with dementia to post to Facebookā¦except in our case that person is the President of the United States. What in the ever-loving hellā¦
If anyone in the private sector made or posted an image of any african american's face transposed onto a monkey's body, they would be fired so fast HR would need track shoes to catch up to them to get the severance papers signed.
If any democrat politician did it about a republican politician, they'd be lucky if they could resign fast enough to avoid being impeached / censored / fined / recalled, and their future public career would hold less value then a used pair of sneakers. And they would be sued into oblivion by the person who's face was used.
If you're being serious, I kinda thought it was funny too. I don't support/like Trump at all, but I can laugh at a stupid ass AI video and move on with my day.
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u/Mystic_Waffles 11h ago
I miss the days where lying about a blowjob was enough for a president to get impeached.